Yg mw ngob ttg olahraga silakan masuk...^o^ in IPEKA
September 18, 2008, 03:32 PM
by Kevin Jonathan
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- Kevin Jonathan (September 18, 2008, 03:32 PM) wrote : Ad yg pny crita2 ttg OR ?? Tim bskt di ipto kek...Voli, futsal,ato ap aj d...Silakan post disini y...Kebetulan saiia jg sangat hobi OR n ikt tim bskt, voli n futsal jg (maruk y ikt smua ?) Wkwkwkwkwk-------------------
- Yosua (September 19, 2008, 03:31 PM) wrote : wah, saya sih trmasuk golongan orang yg nonton doang sambil makan dkantin...
- Kevin Jonathan (September 19, 2008, 04:54 PM) wrote : HahahahahahaWah, payah niey...Ga sehat donk bdn na ! Wkwkwkwkwk ^o^v
- Yosua (September 24, 2008, 09:05 AM) wrote : heh! siapa bilang, uhuk3.. badan gw sehat kok..! hacih..dulu sih, biasanya maen bultang ma tmen2, di pik, kalo ngga di patra..
- Kevin Jonathan (September 24, 2008, 03:48 PM) wrote : Ooo...Maen badminton toh...Gw jg suka th ! HahahahaGw suka smua olahraga d ! HahahahahaPrnh ikt cup2 gtu ga ??
- nopha (September 27, 2008, 12:07 PM) wrote : haha..klo gw jadi penyemangat-nya aj disamping lapangan..btw., tim IPTO gimana sekarang??makin jago??
- Yosua (September 27, 2008, 05:45 PM) wrote : nggak lah, maen bareng tmen2 aj.. tapi kalo taufik doang mah lewat...tp akhir2 ini ud jarang.. ud pada hijrah ke negri sebrang sana..
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 03:48 PM Message:Ooo...Maen badminton toh...Gw jg suka th ! HahahahaGw suka smua olahraga d ! HahahahahaPrnh ikt cup2 gtu ga ??
- Kevin Jonathan (October 09, 2008, 08:35 PM) wrote : Y alhamdulillah d skrg piala na mayan bnyk dr OR...HeheheheheKmrn ini gw catet daftar prestasi yg basket cowo aj slama 3 taon ini...1 halaman kertas file piala na...Kl dijumlah ma basket ce, voli n futsal kn mayan jg th...Menuh2in lemari piala ! WkwkwkwkwkwkwkTp abiz angkatan gw ini ga ad regenerasi niey...Bnr2 cacat ! Hwhwhwhwhw
- Vincent Tan (October 11, 2008, 09:52 AM) wrote : wew., good..good..IPTO kan dari dulu terkenal ma sport-ny..mank angkatan junior2 u bener2 gak ad yg jago..??klo kelas 1-ny..??
- nopha (October 11, 2008, 10:01 AM) wrote : hohohohoo...ya iTulah tugas seNior..ajarin duoNk ade kelas u.,biar jago2 ky angkatan u..wekekekek...
- Kevin Jonathan (October 12, 2008, 11:33 AM) wrote : Itu dy mslh na...Bnr2 ga ad...Gw kn prnh disuruh ngelatih yg anak2 dibawah gw th...Anak2 na ga mw dngerin gtu..Kyk sok jago gtu pada...Ga mw dikasih tw...Mw2 na ndiri ! Kesel d gw ! Hahahahahaha
Kl angkatan dlu2 yg plg bgs OR ap n piala yg plg bergengsi yg di dpt ap th ?? Smpe ad yg dibanggain bgt ga ?? Hehehehehe
- Justin Kusuma (October 12, 2008, 03:07 PM) wrote : @ YosuaItu dlu pas masa2 kita masuk Thomas Cup yak...Eh, klo cepat tepat, matematik...olahraga bukan yahhh...kan tgnnya olahraga buat tulis2 coretan pas ngitung2... kepala goyang" klo pegel, belum lagi otak dipake trz biar pinterrr... ^^
-------------------------------What's truth?? (John 18:38a)---From: Yosua, Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 09:05 AM Message:heh! siapa bilang, uhuk3.. badan gw sehat kok..! hacih..dulu sih, biasanya maen bultang ma tmen2, di pik, kalo ngga di patra..
- Kevin Jonathan (October 12, 2008, 05:54 PM) wrote : Y kl pensil na dr besi n berat na 10kg c boleh jg th masuk olahraga ! WkwkwkwkwkwkwkwkWAh, kyk na org2 disini ga tll t'tarik ma olahraga y spertinya ! Thread na sepi ! Hahaahaha
- Yosua (October 17, 2008, 01:30 PM) wrote : yoi bung...yg kta jga kdang2 ditandem jadi ganda putra itu..
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Sunday, October 12, 2008, 11:33 AM Message:Itu dy mslh na...Bnr2 ga ad...Gw kn prnh disuruh ngelatih yg anak2 dibawah gw th...Anak2 na ga mw dngerin gtu..Kyk sok jago gtu pada...Ga mw dikasih tw...Mw2 na ndiri ! Kesel d gw ! Hahahahahaha
Kl angkatan dlu2 yg plg bgs OR ap n piala yg plg bergengsi yg di dpt ap th ?? Smpe ad yg dibanggain bgt ga ?? Hehehehehe
- Kevin Jonathan (October 17, 2008, 08:37 PM) wrote : Wkwkwkwkwk Ud mulai error niey ngom olahraga na ! Hahahahahaha
- Justin Kusuma (October 18, 2008, 08:57 PM) wrote : Klo OR sih gw dlu sering maen Table TenniS....Cuma dlu wkt jaman gw lum ada lomba2nya antar skul gt....Ga tau klo skrg uda ada pa blm..Wah, klo ada mah kita isa Bri...! Ya ga, Dd..?!
-------------------------------What's truth?? (John 18:38a)
- Justin Kusuma (October 18, 2008, 09:10 PM) wrote : Mgkn u terlalu terkesan "ngajarin" x....hue3..Kenali dlu anak2, Jadi "teman" mereka...santai, mgkn lebih sifatnya maen bareng...Gw rasa u bisa dktin mereka dulu spy isa dgrin u. Cuma saran gw sih..Klo guru kan pasti kita senengnya yg ga lgs kebut materi kn?! Yg santai n enak diajak ngobrol kan...tp ttp dpt ilmu ^^Klo dari OR gw kurang tau sih...cuma yg gw tau klo basket putra saingannya berat2..tp klo putri biasanya juara 3 besar.Klo lomba akademik biasa (n seringnya) matematik yg bergengsi biasanya diadain UI scr taonan; selama 3 taon gw SMU, IPTO pegang piala 2x.Pdhal lawannya selevel SMUKi, kanisius, gt2...
-------------------------------What's truth?? (John 18:38a)---From: Kevin Jonathan, Sunday, October 12, 2008, 11:33 AM Message:Itu dy mslh na...Bnr2 ga ad...Gw kn prnh disuruh ngelatih yg anak2 dibawah gw th...Anak2 na ga mw dngerin gtu..Kyk sok jago gtu pada...Ga mw dikasih tw...Mw2 na ndiri ! Kesel d gw ! Hahahahahaha
Kl angkatan dlu2 yg plg bgs OR ap n piala yg plg bergengsi yg di dpt ap th ?? Smpe ad yg dibanggain bgt ga ?? Hehehehehe
- Kevin Jonathan (October 19, 2008, 08:15 PM) wrote : Hahahahaha Kl anak2 yg ini mank ud bebal...Pa berty aj ud angkat tgn ! HaahahahahaWah, koq skrg UI ud ga prnh bwt kompetisi gtu y ! HeheheheheBtw, kl dlu ad teater ga ?? Skrg lg in bgt niey teater di ipto...Srg ikt kompetisi2 jg ! Hehehehehe
- nopha (October 20, 2008, 10:26 AM) wrote : wow., teater..??belon pernah denger nih ttg teater di IPEKA..ngobrol di topik baru yuukkzzz...ud ak buat tuuw..
- Kevin Jonathan (October 21, 2008, 10:12 PM) wrote : Iy...Ud 2 taon ini ada teater...N hasil na cukup memuaskan...Menghibur n ad something new di ipeka...Hehehehehe
- Nadine Chandra (October 24, 2008, 11:22 AM) wrote : skarang tim volley en tim basket ipeka., mana yang lebih jago..??truz tim cowo / tim cewe yang lebih nonjol niy..??
- Kevin Jonathan (October 24, 2008, 11:06 PM) wrote : Hmm...Ssh jg c kl diukur gtu...Tp kl mw diliat dr prestasi...tim bsket lbih srg menghasilkan piala c drpd tim voli...HeheheheKl ce n co c sama aj y mnurut gw...Dua2 na sama2 ebad...UPDATE : ARI INI TIM CE N CO JUARA 1 PH CUP LHOOO !!! Juara kembar...Juara 1 dua2 na ! HahahahahahahaSeumur2 ipeka...bru angkatan ini yg isa jdi juara di PH ! Senanknyaaaaa !!! Capeeee bgt dah tndg na ! Plg mlem2 truz ! T.T Tp gpp...Hasil na memuaskan ! Hohoho
- nopha (October 27, 2008, 10:07 PM) wrote : waw..!!!!congratz...saLut buat juNior2 sekarang..!!!ciayooow...!!!!!maju terus yooo....
- Kevin Jonathan (October 28, 2008, 09:54 PM) wrote : Sep...Skrg ad 4 cup sedang menunggu di bln november ! gw n 3 anak ipeka masuk tim wakilin jak-bar...Truz ad tiara kasih cup...Kemurnian (sbelah ipto ! Hahahaha) n SMAK4 bkin cup jg ! Semua na ntu bentrok n mw dihajar smua ! Gokil y ?? Bnr2 kyk lg ngejer setoran ! Buakakakakakakakakakaka ^o^vMinta doa dr kk2 senior skalian y supaya isa juara lg...Mayan kn isa ngangkat nama ipeka dr olahraga...Hohohoho wkwkwkwkkwk
- nopha (October 29, 2008, 10:05 AM) wrote : amien..amien...mowga2 borong semua d..truz klo jadi juara kan hadiahnya dibagi2 kan,,??boLeh tuuh ntraktir gw sekaLi2..huehehehe...ciayoow...!!kabar2 in yaa update-nya ttg lomba2 iToe..
- Kevin Jonathan (October 29, 2008, 05:24 PM) wrote : Sep2...Nnt gw update2 disini d ! HehehehheeBtw...Kyk na gw doank y yg ngasih info n berita...Mana niey yg laen ?? gw jg mw nanya2 niey...Bosen jg kl jawab truz ! Buakakakakakaka
- nopha (October 30, 2008, 08:14 AM) wrote : hmm., mank-ny u mow nanya2 opo mas..??hehe..liat2 thread lain juga aj..kan udah mayan banyak topik baru en member yang mulai aktif tuuw...
- Kevin Jonathan (October 31, 2008, 10:01 PM) wrote : Hahahahaha Mantap jg y perkembangan na...Pelan2 namun pasti ! Buakakakakakaakaka
- Justin Kusuma (November 15, 2008, 12:32 AM) wrote : Sep2....Wah kami2 kan dah pd kuliah...uda ga tau info di ipto, hahaha ya dr kmu2 iniKita jg ikt ngerasain n Bangga
-------------------------------What's truth?? (John 18:38a)
- Kevin Jonathan (November 15, 2008, 07:47 PM) wrote : Hahahahaha Update berita...Barusan tim ce n co ipto yg basket juara kembar di SMAK4...Hahahahahahaha Senangnya...Pdhl dr kmrn tndg sehari 2x truz...Tepar bnr niey skrg...T.T Tp hepi bgt bru beberapa bln skul kls 3...Ud dpt bnyk piala...Srg juara brg lg ma yg tim ce...Hohohoho ^o^v
- nopha (November 16, 2008, 04:49 PM) wrote : wew..congratz yaaa...sampein juga tuuw ma temen2 lain yang tanding...congratz namba2in koleksi piala di ipeka..hehe..pasang fotonya donk..biar tar ak bisa pasang di banner sebelah kiri ini..jadi smua org bisa ngeliat tuuw tiap kali klik kesini..haha..bangga doNk muka2nya terpampang geDe2 disini..hehe...
- Nadine Chandra (November 16, 2008, 05:22 PM) wrote : iy niyy..tunjukin donk fotonya...tar dipasang ya rut di banner kiri..hehe..
- Kevin Jonathan (November 16, 2008, 05:25 PM) wrote : Wah...Kita kl juara gtu ga prnh poto2 th kk...HahahahahaaKl poto2 truz mah isa bnyk poto na ! Hohohoho ^o^v
- Vincent Tan (November 16, 2008, 05:27 PM) wrote : masa??foto sama tim rame2 d..masa gak ada?terus kalo menang kan biasanya sih foto dengan pialanya bukan..??
- Kevin Jonathan (November 16, 2008, 05:28 PM) wrote : Ga prnh th...Coz qt2 ini bkn org2 yg suka poto gtu...Lgian kmrn ini kn disuruh itung th brp bnyk piala yg ud qt dapetin slama 3 taon ini...Yg ce n co total 2 halaman th daftar piala na...Skitar 50 piala...Ce n co..Bayangin aj gmn poto na ?? Bayangin aj ! Wkwkwkwkwkwkwk
- Vincent Tan (November 16, 2008, 05:48 PM) wrote : hallah...yawda fotoin pialanya aj deeeyy..paling gak biar ada buktinya terpampang di community ini nihhh...khekhekhe..biar bangga doNk di ipeka..soalnya kaan ada community sekolah laen nih disini..khekhekhe..
- Kevin Jonathan (November 16, 2008, 05:50 PM) wrote : Hahahahaha Poto org na aj males...Aplg piala na ! Gmn c kk ?? Buakakakakakakakakakaakakkaa
- nopha (November 17, 2008, 05:07 PM) wrote : masa sih Vin??bukannya u narsis..??wekekeke
- Kevin Jonathan (November 17, 2008, 07:43 PM) wrote : Waduh ! Salah bsar th ! HohohohoY batas wajar lah narsiz na...Yg pst gw seumur idup...BLM PERNAH TH 1X PUN YG NAMA NYA POTO DIRI NDIRI GTU ! HuahahahahahahahaEmank na kl dlu2 kl juara di poto2 gtu y ?? Hohohoho
- Stevi Cristi (November 17, 2008, 11:06 PM) wrote : harus-nya sih gitu kev..biar aj dokumentasi klo kite menang...=)malah kadang2 klo gak menang pun....yg penting ada fotonyaa...hehe..
- Stevi Cristi (November 17, 2008, 11:35 PM) wrote :
- nopha (November 18, 2008, 09:44 AM) wrote : manthaap2...jago buanget maen basketnya., padahal badannya kecil loow..
- Kevin Jonathan (November 18, 2008, 10:35 PM) wrote : Oow...Sudah pernah liat ini...HeheheheheBtw kk...Ini dakuw dpt 1 poto dr panit na pas lg tndg di smak4...Hehehehehehe1 doank gpp y...Males kl bnyk2 ! HohohohoNtar di upload y...
- Kevin Jonathan (November 18, 2008, 10:37 PM) wrote :
- nopha (November 19, 2008, 09:36 PM) wrote : okaaay..sip..udah ak upload tuuw jadi banner di samping kiri..km ud liat??iTung2...promosi gratis buat yang jombLo...
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Tuesday, November 18, 2008, 10:37 PM Message:
- Stevi Cristi (November 20, 2008, 03:07 PM) wrote : di foto itu..km yang mana ya kev..??
- Yosua (November 20, 2008, 10:19 PM) wrote : yang pake baju item kayany, yg di bagian belakang kiri..
- nopha (November 21, 2008, 10:42 PM) wrote : sotoy nih..bener/gak kev..??
---From: Yosua, Thursday, November 20, 2008, 10:19 PM Message:yang pake baju item kayany, yg di bagian belakang kiri..
- Yosua (November 22, 2008, 09:04 PM) wrote : pasti bner..itu loh yg di belakangny baner pop mie..
---From: Rut, Friday, November 21, 2008, 10:42 PM Message:sotoy nih..bener/gak kev..??
---From: Yosua, Thursday, November 20, 2008, 10:19 PM Message:yang pake baju item kayany, yg di bagian belakang kiri..
- Kevin Jonathan (November 22, 2008, 10:13 PM) wrote : Item na c bener....Tapi kl yg diblkg banner y NGGA LAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!! Ud mana jelek bgt lg th org ! Grrrrr !!! O--('.'Q) I punch You !!! HeheheheAyo tebak2 saiia yg mana...(Clue : saiia agak kecil n jadi playmaker ! Hohoho)
- Kevin Jonathan (November 22, 2008, 10:31 PM) wrote : O iy...Update britaaa...HohohohoohoAri ini kita dpt piala lg...Juara 2 AIS Cup...N yg ce juara 1 !! Yeiiiiii !!!! HeheheheheheeheheN ad lg...Saiia dpt piala jdi MVP lho ! Hohohohoho Senank na...Hahahahahaha
- Vincent Tan (November 29, 2008, 10:42 AM) wrote : uuuwwooo...playmaker?? MVP??haha..manthaap man..congratz yaa..!!
- nopha (November 29, 2008, 10:44 AM) wrote : wetzeiii...mana pialanya??gaya bener uiy.. MVP..haha..dipajang atuh foto u ma piala MVP-ny..lumayan niLai pLuss tuuw bOeat diliat cewe2..hahahaha..congratz yaa boz..
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Saturday, November 22, 2008, 10:31 PM Message:O iy...Update britaaa...HohohohoohoAri ini kita dpt piala lg...Juara 2 AIS Cup...N yg ce juara 1 !! Yeiiiiii !!!! HeheheheheheeheheN ad lg...Saiia dpt piala jdi MVP lho ! Hohohohoho Senank na...Hahahahahaha
- Kevin Jonathan (November 29, 2008, 11:00 AM) wrote : Ogah ah ! Malu ! WkwkwkwkwkLgian norak bnr dpt MVP aj dipajang2 ! BuakakakakakakakakakaBtw...Thx ucapan na ! HohohohoBntar lg ad Pop Mie cup niey...Yg se Indonesia ntu...Kyk na ipto bakal ikt d...Doakan y supaya isa berbicara bnyk ! Hohohoho
- nopha (November 30, 2008, 09:22 PM) wrote : kayanya u ud terlalu banyak "bicara" d..hahahaa..okz., ciayoow!!kapan lombanya??diadain dimana??
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:00 AM Message:Ogah ah ! Malu ! WkwkwkwkwkLgian norak bnr dpt MVP aj dipajang2 ! BuakakakakakakakakakaBtw...Thx ucapan na ! HohohohoBntar lg ad Pop Mie cup niey...Yg se Indonesia ntu...Kyk na ipto bakal ikt d...Doakan y supaya isa berbicara bnyk ! Hohohoho
- Nadine Chandra (December 01, 2008, 09:53 PM) wrote : gud luck ya vin buat lomba2nya..eniwei, gpp lah fotonya dipajang..kan gak tiap hari juga lu jadi MVP.., bole donk narsis 'dikit'..hehe..
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Saturday, November 29, 2008, 11:00 AM Message:Ogah ah ! Malu ! WkwkwkwkwkLgian norak bnr dpt MVP aj dipajang2 ! BuakakakakakakakakakaBtw...Thx ucapan na ! HohohohoBntar lg ad Pop Mie cup niey...Yg se Indonesia ntu...Kyk na ipto bakal ikt d...Doakan y supaya isa berbicara bnyk ! Hohohoho
- Yosua (December 03, 2008, 10:43 PM) wrote : mantap gan..ditunggu makan2 nya..
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Saturday, November 22, 2008, 10:31 PM Message:O iy...Update britaaa...HohohohoohoAri ini kita dpt piala lg...Juara 2 AIS Cup...N yg ce juara 1 !! Yeiiiiii !!!! HeheheheheheeheheN ad lg...Saiia dpt piala jdi MVP lho ! Hohohohoho Senank na...Hahahahahaha
- nopha (December 04, 2008, 11:36 PM) wrote : jangan lupakan akuuw juga yaaa...
---From: Yosua, Wednesday, December 03, 2008, 10:43 PM Message:mantap gan..ditunggu makan2 nya..
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Saturday, November 22, 2008, 10:31 PM Message:O iy...Update britaaa...HohohohoohoAri ini kita dpt piala lg...Juara 2 AIS Cup...N yg ce juara 1 !! Yeiiiiii !!!! HeheheheheheeheheN ad lg...Saiia dpt piala jdi MVP lho ! Hohohohoho Senank na...Hahahahahaha
- Justin Kusuma (December 11, 2008, 11:29 PM) wrote : woloh, malah rugi kamu juara kev...jadi traktir"an, wkwkkwSep2x, makin manthap aj tim basket kita...
-------------------------------What's truth?? (John 18:38a)---From: Rut, Thursday, December 04, 2008, 11:36 PM Message:jangan lupakan akuuw juga yaaa...
---From: Yosua, Wednesday, December 03, 2008, 10:43 PM Message:mantap gan..ditunggu makan2 nya..
---From: Kevin Jonathan, Saturday, November 22, 2008, 10:31 PM Message:O iy...Update britaaa...HohohohoohoAri ini kita dpt piala lg...Juara 2 AIS Cup...N yg ce juara 1 !! Yeiiiiii !!!! HeheheheheheeheheN ad lg...Saiia dpt piala jdi MVP lho ! Hohohohoho Senank na...Hahahahahaha
- nopha (December 12, 2008, 08:45 AM) wrote : keviiin...????!!!dimanakah kauuuww..??berhubung diserbu minta traktir-an..langsung "ngabur" yaaappp....??no..no..no..jangan gitu donk..hehehe...
- Kelvin Djajalaksana (January 09, 2009, 09:36 PM) wrote : haha, olahraga?hmph apa yah...waktu kelas X ambil eksul basket karena dari SMP emank biasa sih maen basket...hehe...trus karena alasan mengundurkan diri.... masuk tim math...
hmph...dari kelas X juga uda diminta maen volli sih ama guru OR, tapi nolak..en mulai dari kelas XI masuk tim volli ...
trus kelas XII walau sempet ada peristiwa yg menegangkan, sempet di keluarin dari tim... tapi akhirnya boleh maen di Porseni, lumayan Juara III...
haha, paling yg berkesan pas g kelas XI sempet maen di IPTO Cup itu pertama kalo g liat kantin yg begitu byk makanan di banding sunter...
entah kenapa, byk banget kejadian yg tragis juga...kalo ga salah ujan pas hari itu, ada tenda roboh...pertandingan g dtunda...dan ada anak yg lagi bwa barang pecah belah(mungkin lgi mindahin alat salah satu stand makanan)dan jatuh dan prang pecah......di depan kaki g lagi....T.T)
tapi walau pun kalah ada juga yg ngajak g kenalan, seneng juga
- nopha (January 10, 2009, 08:52 AM) wrote : hahaha...kacau amad ceritanya..but heppie ending tuuw..=)
---From: Kelvin Djajalaksana, Friday, January 09, 2009, 09:36 PM Message:haha, olahraga?hmph apa yah...waktu kelas X ambil eksul basket karena dari SMP emank biasa sih maen basket...hehe...trus karena alasan mengundurkan diri.... masuk tim math...
hmph...dari kelas X juga uda diminta maen volli sih ama guru OR, tapi nolak..en mulai dari kelas XI masuk tim volli ...
trus kelas XII walau sempet ada peristiwa yg menegangkan, sempet di keluarin dari tim... tapi akhirnya boleh maen di Porseni, lumayan Juara III...
haha, paling yg berkesan pas g kelas XI sempet maen di IPTO Cup itu pertama kalo g liat kantin yg begitu byk makanan di banding sunter...
entah kenapa, byk banget kejadian yg tragis juga...kalo ga salah ujan pas hari itu, ada tenda roboh...pertandingan g dtunda...dan ada anak yg lagi bwa barang pecah belah(mungkin lgi mindahin alat salah satu stand makanan)dan jatuh dan prang pecah......di depan kaki g lagi....T.T)
tapi walau pun kalah ada juga yg ngajak g kenalan, seneng juga
- Stevi Cristi (January 16, 2009, 05:00 PM) wrote : wew..seru juga pengalamanny di "lapangan" IPEKA..hehe..eniwei, IPEKA sekarang ada yang lomba2 renang gitu/gak yaa..??haha..kayanya dari dulu ga aktif2 di bidang satu ini..
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